Comments on: Reading a DVD with VLC or mplayer is now illegal in France http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/ Samuel Tardieu's dual-sided blog Sat, 17 May 2008 02:36:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: thomas http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-98038 thomas Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:11:42 +0000 http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-98038 because of stupid law :( because of stupid law :(

]]> By: Nick http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-78758 Nick Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:01:13 +0000 http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-78758 Wow. Why can't you do what you want with a dvd that you legally bought? Wow. Why can’t you do what you want with a dvd that you legally bought?

]]> By: Samuel Tardieu http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-31395 Samuel Tardieu Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:32:05 +0000 http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-31395 <b>GroM:</b> you're right. I'll edit the post. GroM: you’re right. I’ll edit the post.

]]> By: GroM http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-31381 GroM Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:37:46 +0000 http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-31381 The APRIL has filed a case to the Council of State (Supreme court in the administrative order) to have that executive order canceled. I'm planning to write a post on that. Unfortunately guys, it will be in French. See: http://www.april.org/articles/communiques/pr-20070221.html for more information about this. Sam, I'm afraid the price for this is 750 Euros. This is a "Contravention de 4ème classe", and you can get the "discount price" only if a specific executive order says so. It is not the case so far, as you can see in article 529 and R48-1 of the penal procedure code. The APRIL has filed a case to the Council of State (Supreme court in the administrative order) to have that executive order canceled. I’m planning to write a post on that. Unfortunately guys, it will be in French. See:

http://www.april.org/articles/communiques/pr-20070221.html

for more information about this.

Sam, I’m afraid the price for this is 750 Euros. This is a “Contravention de 4ème classe”, and you can get the “discount price” only if a specific executive order says so. It is not the case so far, as you can see in article 529 and R48-1 of the penal procedure code.

]]> By: Mike http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-30632 Mike Sat, 17 Feb 2007 09:25:52 +0000 http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-30632 Politicans aren't so smart in France I guess :S Politicans aren’t so smart in France I guess :S

]]> By: Nuudelisoppa » Reading a DVD with VLC or mplayer is now illegal in France http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-23375 Nuudelisoppa » Reading a DVD with VLC or mplayer is now illegal in France Mon, 01 Jan 2007 11:59:38 +0000 http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-23375 [...] Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde Juha [...] […] Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde Juha […]

]]> By: lamer403 http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-23343 lamer403 Mon, 01 Jan 2007 08:32:32 +0000 http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-23343 RIAA == Racketeers Industry Assoc of America.Vista is intended to take your rights away.Whole crap!Just do not buy DRMed shit!Return it to shops and require vendors to properly publish info about DRM systems involved (like CSS is).Wtf I should buy something unknown, then discover my rights were crippled without warnings?Is this legal?DRM should be illegal, because it ignores basic law principle: "everyone is innocent unless proven guilty".Duh.Why not just jail everyone because "he\she can theoretically kill someone in future so we better about to jail 'em all"?That's how DRM works.Why they can ignore law principles and we're can not?Laws should be equal to anyone.But today, laws are protecting media mafia only, not even composers or musicians or programmers or whoever else, just media racketeers corporations are protected but they're should be ELIMINATED 'cause they're just bunch of racketeers :\ RIAA == Racketeers Industry Assoc of America.Vista is intended to take your rights away.Whole crap!Just do not buy DRMed shit!Return it to shops and require vendors to properly publish info about DRM systems involved (like CSS is).Wtf I should buy something unknown, then discover my rights were crippled without warnings?Is this legal?DRM should be illegal, because it ignores basic law principle: “everyone is innocent unless proven guilty”.Duh.Why not just jail everyone because “he\she can theoretically kill someone in future so we better about to jail ‘em all”?That’s how DRM works.Why they can ignore law principles and we’re can not?Laws should be equal to anyone.But today, laws are protecting media mafia only, not even composers or musicians or programmers or whoever else, just media racketeers corporations are protected but they’re should be ELIMINATED ’cause they’re just bunch of racketeers :\

]]> By: Jerome Beaubien http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-23341 Jerome Beaubien Mon, 01 Jan 2007 08:21:12 +0000 http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-23341 This doesn't make any sense... Are they seriously expecting the average end user to be aware how the application they're using might interact with the dvd's copy protection? I use VLC because it works fine both on windows and osx and have yet to find a video format it cant play "out of the box", not to crack dvds... What's next? Banning operating systems because they allow users to use software that could possibly be used to circumvent a DVD's copy protection? Maybe in a few years from now they'll come up with a law that makes it illegal to watch a dvd movie on a computer unless you're using windows media player, running windows vista and using an hdcp monitor... This doesn’t make any sense… Are they seriously expecting the average end user to be aware how the application they’re using might interact with the dvd’s copy protection? I use VLC because it works fine both on windows and osx and have yet to find a video format it cant play “out of the box”, not to crack dvds…

What’s next? Banning operating systems because they allow users to use software that could possibly be used to circumvent a DVD’s copy protection?
Maybe in a few years from now they’ll come up with a law that makes it illegal to watch a dvd movie on a computer unless you’re using windows media player, running windows vista and using an hdcp monitor…

]]> By: Ghostaliaz http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-23312 Ghostaliaz Mon, 01 Jan 2007 03:44:33 +0000 http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-23312 I am so sick of these old paranoid dinosaurs talking about technology that they do not know anything about. This crap stupid law better not come to the U.S , well it may after all the Dummy Repiblicans are in power, so anything could happen, but me for one I bought my computer so I choose to do what ever I want with it and all of these old dinosaurs better just bite a big one because us the geeks run it and we will until we throw dirt over those old AZ dinosaurs pigs, so I say keep using VLC like I am going to and if a old idiot says something so what because you payed for your pc and the stinken gov did not, so use it how you choose because I will until and after the dirt is poured on my geeky grave. VLC til the end. dinosaurs shut-up! I am so sick of these old paranoid dinosaurs talking about technology that they do not know anything about. This crap stupid law better not come to the U.S , well it may after all the Dummy Repiblicans are in power, so anything could happen, but me for one I bought my computer so I choose to do what ever I want with it and all of these old dinosaurs better just bite a big one because us the geeks run it and we will until we throw dirt over those old AZ dinosaurs pigs, so I say keep using VLC like I am going to and if a old idiot says something so what because you payed for your pc and the stinken gov did not, so use it how you choose because I will until and after the dirt is poured on my geeky grave. VLC til the end. dinosaurs shut-up!

]]> By: Oliver Double http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-23311 Oliver Double Mon, 01 Jan 2007 03:42:47 +0000 http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/#comment-23311 So, I am from Europe with a large collection of European purchased DVDs now living in the US. I also own US Region 1 dvds. I run the DVD43 software on my computer so that my drives dont lock up when I switch between discs, (lock after switching regions 5 times). So why should that be illegal. I want to watch discs I legally purchased on a computer I legally purchased using software that of itself is not illegal. Man, if I go shopping in the US but use a carrier bag I bought in Europe to carry it home, will that soon be illegal. Olly. So, I am from Europe with a large collection of European purchased DVDs now living in the US. I also own US Region 1 dvds. I run the DVD43 software on my computer so that my drives dont lock up when I switch between discs, (lock after switching regions 5 times). So why should that be illegal. I want to watch discs I legally purchased on a computer I legally purchased using software that of itself is not illegal.

Man, if I go shopping in the US but use a carrier bag I bought in Europe to carry it home, will that soon be illegal.

Olly.

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